UAP Files Podcast S4|E40

*TIMESTAMPS BELOW*

Could artificial intelligence make contact with the UFO phenomenon before humanity does? And could this explain why some insiders are warning that time is running out for UFO disclosure?In this special episode of the *UAP Files Podcast*, I'm joined by Tom Vernon from *Tom Vernon UAP* for an extraordinary conversation with legendary UFO researcher, scientist and computer pioneer *Jacques Vallée*.

With over 60 years of research behind him, Jacques shares fascinating insights into UFO crash retrievals, artificial intelligence, government secrecy and the true nature of the phenomenon.

*"The thing it could do on its own is to contact the phenomena, without us." — Jacques Vallée*

🛸 *SUBJECTS DISCUSSED:*

• Could AI independently contact non-human intelligence?

• Catastrophic UFO disclosure and warnings that time is running out.

• The secretive AAWSAP/BAASS programme and its database of 260,000 UFO cases.

• The 1945 Trinity UFO crash and alleged classified government records.

• Roswell, Socorro and Valensole UFO encounters.

• Scientific analysis of alleged UFO materials with Dr Garry Nolan.

• A remarkable 1966 UFO encounter involving nuclear-level energy.

• Skinwalker Ranch and mysterious creatures in Utah.

• Radar spoofing and the manipulation of military sensors.

• The USS Nimitz encounter and limitations of infrared footage.

• A database of 763 pilot UFO encounters.

• UFOs operating outside conventional space and time.

• Government secrecy, disinformation and the future of disclosure.

*"Disclosure without trust is worthless." — Jacques Vallée*

Jacques has been on my podcast bucket list for years, and this was genuinely one of the most fascinating conversations I've had.

A huge thank you to Jacques and Tom for joining me.

*TIMESTAMPS*

00:00 Could AI Contact UFOs Before We Do?

01:14 Intro & Sponsor

03:37 Is This Jacques' Final Book?

09:00 Can Science Ever Measure the Phenomenon?

16:03 Utah's Wolf Creature That Ran at 60 mph

19:48 Radar Spoofing: Can We Trust Our Sensors?

21:22 BAASS: 260,000 Cases & the Lost AI Phase

26:28 1966: A Forest Light With Reactor-Level Energy

32:21 Inside Project Blue Book & the Condon Committee

38:39 The Burned Tree Bark Under Lab Analysis

45:52 763 Pilot Reports Since World War I

53:10 Nimitz Image: Raytheon's "Not a Photograph" Memo

57:55 What Happens When AI Probes the Phenomenon?

1:03:28 "It's Not Going to Be a Dialogue"

1:05:38 America's "Unknown Means Threat" Bias

1:10:42 Landing Cases & the Trinity Crash

1:18:50 Is AI the Catastrophic Disclosure?

1:22:09 Why Would Advanced Craft Crash?

1:33:07 Time Running Out... For What?

1:35:14 Trust Is Deteriorating Fast

1:38:09 Vallée's Three Mile Island Crisis Network

1:50:00 "Disclosure Without Trust Is Worthless"

🔗 *LINKS*

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🎵 Music: Clusters - Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen, Jakob Ahlbom (Licensed through Epidemic Sound)

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