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What changes when your business gets bigger than you?


Rowan Simpson, employee #3 at Trade Me and an early Xero investor, is back for a second session with Steve, Seamus and business coach Di Foster. This time he’s answering your questions on scaling, from your sixth hire to your first departments, and everything that breaks in between.

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Five months after retiring from international cricket, Kane Williamson sits down for a rare long-form conversation.


He explains why he stepped away between tests against England rather than hang on for a farewell tour or the 10,000-run milestone, and the conversation with Virat Kohli the day before he announced it.


He shares the personal principles he ...


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Five years ago Paddy Gower came on Between Two Beers over a lockdown video call, sitting between about seven craft beers.


He’s back on Hambassadors, and he’s now off the drink completely. We talk about what giving up drinking and the Newshub redundancy did to him, why election night is “the Everest” of live TV (this is his seventh), and what he’s hearing from Kiwi...


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NZ showjumper and eventer Catriona Williams broke her neck in a fall from a horse and became tetraplegic. Fourteen months into her marriage, she told her husband Sam to leave. He stayed, and 23 years on she calls herself lucky, not inspirational.


Through her charity CatWalk she has helped raise $28 million for spinal cord research. She has hand-cycled to Everest B...


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Is your business a pet or livestock? Rowan Simpson, employee #3 at Trade Me and an early Xero investor, sits down with Steve, Seamus and business coach Di Foster to pick apart the business behind Between Two Beers.


What’s really holding it back, where it could grow, and what should we stop doing?


Rowan covers constraints, the three engines every busine...


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