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Google just announced Gemini 4 Carbon, and I wanted to see how Google's own product leaders use Gemini 4 day to day. Jaclyn is a product director at Google Labs. We talked about how Gemini 4 changed the PM job, how Labs decides what's worth building, and how she uses AI to make podcasts and games with her kids.
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Pomp and I worked together at Facebook a decade ago before he became an investor, best-selling author, and public company CEO with an audience of 3.3M. We had a great chat about how to build an extraordinary career and life and how he's building Silvia, an AI CFO for independent investors, to take on the AI labs.
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Micky is a full-stack engineer who has taught 100K+ people how to build with AI. In our episode, he walked me through his 4-step agentic engineering workflow to avoid pumping out slop: Isolate every task, build to a clear structure, prove via validation loops, and ship after agents review your PRs or escalate to you for a manual look.
Micky and I talked abo...
Sam is the co-founder of Granola, the AI meeting notes app now valued at $1.5B. Granola has helped me survive (and even enjoy) countless meetings, so I was excited to learn how Sam uses AI to show up prepared. We also talked about building an AI-native company without the 996 grind and what design means when agents skip your app entirely.
Sam and I talked a...